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Animated horror?

Whines asked me if I could think of any animated horror films. I really can't--"Monster House" comes close, though it's really a kiddie film, it's a pretty standard ghost story. I've seen a couple animated shorts--a version of "The Telltale Heart," for instance--but I can't think of any others. Anything springing to mind?

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spottylogic
Nov. 6th, 2007 06:49 pm (UTC)
*shudder* Mad Monster Party...is that horror, or just horrible? Oi, I haven't been able to sit through it. I wouldn't call that horror, because it doesn't really sit out to scare--it's more an homage, IMO.

Monster House is a recent (fall '06?) CGI film about some kids living across the standard "scary house on the neighborhood." The house itself is "alive", and malevolant.

It's mostly a fun kid's film, but it's got a pretty classic ghost story pacing and content...it's a little silly in places, but a good little Saturday morning ride.
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spottylogic
Nov. 6th, 2007 07:05 pm (UTC)
I think it's Ethel Murman (sp?)'s persistant presence in the film. It cheapens it somehow. It's also a bit long and weirdly paced, and I have no attention span to speak of...
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spottylogic
Nov. 6th, 2007 07:12 pm (UTC)
Ach, sorry, Phyllis Diller! They're in the same section at Wal-Mart, it's easy to understand my confusion!
jenna_thorn
Nov. 6th, 2007 06:47 pm (UTC)
Bakshi's Wizards has some over the top gore, though I suppose it's more fantasy than horror, exactly. Call it a post-apocalyptic fantasy with guns and blood.
spottylogic
Nov. 6th, 2007 06:50 pm (UTC)
Given how horror elements creep into fantasy at the corners, it's hard to distinguish them. The Lord of the Rings animated film and Wizards use some similer scare tactics...
jenna_thorn
Nov. 6th, 2007 06:57 pm (UTC)
Heh, similar or exact rotoscoping. Save for the line drawn frames filter over the stock footage, some of the crowd sequences are identical. I suppose we could be charitable and call it recycling.

Yeah, even with the live action. I mean, I tend to think of something like Jackson's LotR films as fantasy and something like Nightmare on Elm St as horror, but for someone whose tolerance for blood is lower, I can see how the Uruk Hai or the Ride to Gondor or the Lands of the Dead would be pretty horrific.
spottylogic
Nov. 6th, 2007 07:02 pm (UTC)
Ultimately, Sci-Fi, Fantasy and Horror are part of the same "genre" of Speculative Fiction. Trying to figure out where each one ends and the other begins is an excercise in frustration, or a long, satisfying argument, depending on your mood and current company (though I think horror and fantasy have more in common than horror and sci-fi, as a general rule, "Alien" nonwithstanding).

jenna_thorn
Nov. 6th, 2007 07:26 pm (UTC)
Right up there with Batman v. Superman. Go! which with us can wander through the entire DC library before we get bored of it. 8-)

I tend to think of horror as slasher, so I'm really not a good judge. To my mind, Alien was horror, Aliens was sci-fi, the third didn't exist and the fourth was a comedy. What? I laughed all the way through!

But how to classify Highlander? Decapitation is a major and recurring plot point. But is it horror?
spottylogic
Nov. 6th, 2007 07:46 pm (UTC)
Horror comes in three flavors--the BOO!!! scare, the creeping, disturbing horror, and the gross-out. I've heard a lot of other people say Alien=horror, Aliens=sci-fi.

I wouldn't classify Highlander as horror at all--just because someone dies, doesn't make it scary! It seems more like a fantasy to me.
jenna_thorn
Nov. 6th, 2007 10:48 pm (UTC)
You know, I've not seen it yet, but I understand the new Beowulf (i think it opens this week) may qualify as both boo! and scary disturbing -- monsters sneaking up and being, well, monsters.
unclehyena
Nov. 7th, 2007 06:52 pm (UTC)
Part of this discussion is that Horror is ultimately a plot based distinction, and SF is a setting based distinction. So "Alien" and "The Terminator" were BOTH SF AND Horror, and damned good horror at that.
spottedhyena
Nov. 6th, 2007 06:50 pm (UTC)
"Heavy Metal" is the closest thing I can think of.
spottylogic
Nov. 6th, 2007 06:51 pm (UTC)
Hmm, I'll think about that. It does have some horror elements...I don't remember it all that well, though.
spottedhyena
Nov. 6th, 2007 07:32 pm (UTC)
One of the vignettes was a horror story involving a World War II bomber, the rest were really just sci-fi and fantasy stories. Given the cultural bias in the west of animation being only for children, I think you're not likely to find real animated horror outside of Japan.
spottylogic
Nov. 6th, 2007 08:11 pm (UTC)
True,true...that's probably why I'm having such a hard time coming up with any...
unclehyena
Nov. 7th, 2007 06:54 pm (UTC)
Yeah, the "B-29" sequence in "Heavy Metal" is pure and simple horror, and very good, generally held to be the best sequence in the film. But it isn't very long...
texasfanboy
Nov. 6th, 2007 07:00 pm (UTC)
There's a lot of horrific anime out there. Your list gets alot shorter when you omit everything involving a pecker demon, though.

I'm fairly certain Miyazaki's done a horror movie, but I can't name it.
texasfanboy
Nov. 6th, 2007 07:00 pm (UTC)
Nevermind, it was My Neighbor Totaro, and nobody else found it as terrifying as I did.
spottylogic
Nov. 6th, 2007 07:04 pm (UTC)
Heh. I'll have to get Whines to show you the "I will Eat your SOUL" Totaro video.

You're right, though, I didn't even think about anime--it's in a different part of my brain than western-style animation. Pecker-demons nonwithstanding, I can think of a few strongly horror-themed anime. Good point...
jenna_thorn
Nov. 6th, 2007 07:23 pm (UTC)
Pecker-demons
You know, I spent a good three seconds thinking, "Hentai may be embarassing, but I'm not sure it qualifies as horror." before realizing that yes, completely and totally there is horror anime, from vampires and demons to scary aliens.

Silly me.
lunadude
Nov. 7th, 2007 04:55 am (UTC)


eris_star
Nov. 7th, 2007 03:43 pm (UTC)
"Argh!! Evil shoe!!!"
shockwave77598
Nov. 6th, 2007 07:37 pm (UTC)
Vampire Hunter D springs to mind.
spottylogic
Nov. 6th, 2007 07:47 pm (UTC)
*nodnod* when I posted, I'd completely forgotten about Anime...though Anime's such a different flavor from American animation, I'm not sure it's part of the same discussion!
eris_star
Nov. 6th, 2007 07:57 pm (UTC)
Though I've never seen it, I've heard The Black Cauldron is good, and has some scenes that *could* qualify as horror, maybe.
spottylogic
Nov. 6th, 2007 08:05 pm (UTC)
Disney's Black Cauldron? It's about as horrifying as a Disney film could be (because of the backdrop and context, it's more a heroic quest than a horror film--the horror elements are just the trappings of the Big Bad Guy, the rest is pure quest.

Meh. I'm ambivilent about that film. The climax of the book and the movie is an Appropriately Epic Sacrifice, but in the movie--Disney, sigh--the norns sweep in and undo the sacrifice. Very unsatisfying.
itza
Nov. 6th, 2007 08:17 pm (UTC)
Happy Tree Friends?

I guess it isn't done. A Google search turned up a movie in production, since 2005, of Bonesaw - called the first animated horror movie (at least CG animated).

If anyone might know, my guess is it would be Sparrow.
spottylogic
Nov. 6th, 2007 08:23 pm (UTC)
Huh, Bonesaw sounds interesting...I wish they weren't aspiring to Sin City (not a fan of that movie, it's pointlessly splatter). I'm looking forward to that one!
itza
Nov. 6th, 2007 08:20 pm (UTC)
Oooh, anime is easier. Akira springs to mind. I'm sure there's even more, too.
lunadude
Nov. 6th, 2007 08:54 pm (UTC)
Hmm, never thought of it as a "Halloween" movie, but ok.
spottylogic
Nov. 6th, 2007 08:58 pm (UTC)
Oh--misunderstanding--I'm not looking for halloween, but horror!
lunadude
Nov. 6th, 2007 08:54 pm (UTC)
Nightmare Before Christmas (in 3D)
It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown
Night on Bald Mountain (Fantasia)
Monsters, Inc.

Not touching Scooby Doo or Spongebob.
spottylogic
Nov. 6th, 2007 08:58 pm (UTC)
Meh...not really horror, except for Night on Bald Mountain. They're halloween films with some horror imagery (except for Monsters Inc, which is just cute). But none of those really make an effort to scare or creep out...
eris_star
Nov. 6th, 2007 09:51 pm (UTC)
I don't know, "Great Pumpkin" is pretty disturbing from a "how to treat other humans" standpoint. I won't let my kids watch the Peanuts stuff - the kids in the movies are just pointlessly cruel to each other. But it isn't part of the Horror genre.
lunadude
Nov. 7th, 2007 01:50 am (UTC)
I sit corrected.

Would help, if I actually read the title of the thread. Doh.
spotweld
Nov. 7th, 2007 12:49 am (UTC)
Psychological Horror: Perfect Blue (anime)
lunadude
Nov. 7th, 2007 01:49 am (UTC)
Very nice.
spottylogic
Nov. 7th, 2007 02:14 pm (UTC)
Haven't heard of that one, will look up.
flippantmoniker
Nov. 11th, 2007 03:01 pm (UTC)
Fan-f'ing tastic movie.
kt_kat
Nov. 7th, 2007 01:32 am (UTC)
There's always Tim Burton's stuff, but its more macabre than true horror.
All of the heavy horror animation I can think of is anime.

Even with America's stigma that toons are for kids, there are some fairly hardcore written horror anthologies for kids out there. You'd think there would be more animated horror around.
spottylogic
Nov. 7th, 2007 02:13 pm (UTC)
Yeah, it's just not a genre that works for movies right now, not sure why. I've seen a PG-13 Horror that wasn't bad, but below that, it just gets cutesy.
jemona
Nov. 8th, 2007 05:08 am (UTC)
When my little girl was 5, she decided that she wanted to make a silent animated monster movie - with Gypsy Kings as the background music. I have always thought she was brilliant, but that crystallized it.
sdocat
Nov. 9th, 2007 12:48 am (UTC)
Rob Zombie is making a Horror animation called "The Haunted World of El Superbeasto" Maybe not all horror, but if Rob has anything to do with it, it will definetly fall into your definition. It has been delayed, but its supposed to come out next year. I think it also has Mexican wrestlers... :O
spottylogic
Nov. 9th, 2007 02:29 pm (UTC)
*earperks* That sounds interesting. Thanks for the tip, I hadn't heard of that...definately a must-see...
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