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Does it say anywhere that Sleep spells specifically won't work on the undead? It doesn't make sense that they *would*, at least under 3.5, but in 4.0 an attack is an attack is an attack. Spells that only affect living targets won't work on them, but I don't know how to determine if something only affects living targets.

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octos
Sep. 9th, 2008 02:38 am (UTC)
Unless there's a specific exception or vulnerability listed in the monster stat block, the spell will work.

Sleep is more like magical unconsciousness now. It's even been clarified that the only thing that wakes a creature from sleep is making its saving throw. Not even taking damage.

My group doesn't like the spell. I think it's the way it works, since creatures start out slowed. If quarters are tight the bad guys can get a final swipe in. They also tended to get crap rolls when using it.

mielikki keeps sending me over here. She knows that I'm quite smitten with the new edition and good with the rules.
khime
Sep. 22nd, 2008 03:38 am (UTC)
Sorry, I'm way behind on journals.

I've never understood why undead would be immune to sleep. What is a Vampire doing in his coffin during the day? :-)

But yeah, unless it says they're immune, they're not. Undead don't need to breathe or sleep, but can be magically suffocated or rendered unconscious, since they're not "immune" to those effects.

Mostly, it's just monster constructs and some elementals that are outright immune to sleep.
spottylogic
Sep. 22nd, 2008 01:52 pm (UTC)
You're correct - I found a clarification for this in Dragon Magazine on-line just yesterday.
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